The Seat Leon ST Cupra Is The Golf R Wagon's Sexier Cousin 

"Vicente Esteve" (vicente-esteve) 01/10/2015 at 14:12 • Filed to: Seat Leon ST Cupra

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And there is no denying that I want one. The same solidity, build quality, and excellent dynamics of the Golf GTI with the angular body of the Seat Leon. With the added practicality of an added roof section to create a practical wagon. While we do get the Seat Leon SC and Hatch in Mexico, we have never been granted the opportunity to buy it in Wagon (ST) form. Seat has never sold any car here as a wagon, so I doubt this will happen. I hope at least one of these gets across the ocean because its just too damn good for Europe to have it all by itself.

jkm7680 > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 14:18

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I am aroused.

Vicente Esteve > jkm7680 01/10/2015 at 14:22

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Everyone should be!

jkm7680 > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 14:23

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I am moist.

coqui70 > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 15:15

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Kat Callahan > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 15:46

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GET IN MAH DRIVEWAY.

Vicente Esteve > Kat Callahan 01/10/2015 at 15:51

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NO, ITS MINE

CRX-Wing > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 16:10

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Cars like this are why I cannot believe I haven't moved back to Europe… Yet.

Vintage1982Benz > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 16:11

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Wagon envy.

I has it.

SlickRick08 > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 16:12

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Feels good to be european right now. :D

300hp30mpgrwdfor30k > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 16:13

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This thing is like a reverse mullet: party in the front, minivan in the back

bottomfeeds > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 16:17

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Personally, I think that the Golf R is sexier.

slapya > SlickRick08 01/10/2015 at 16:23

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....Until you go to fill up the tank. Gas is 0.50 euros/liter here, and there are places in the US where it is below 0.44.

wholettheriffraffin2 > jkm7680 01/10/2015 at 16:30

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I have tightening pants.

 V8 Rustler > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 16:31

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The same solidity, build quality, and excellent dynamics of the Golf R with the angular body of the Seat Leon

Not without the AWD that the Golf R has.

ohh-75 > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 16:32

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The rear reminds me of an mkt.

Chris Hadley > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 16:33

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much want

GreatPower >  V8 Rustler 01/10/2015 at 16:45

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Yeah and a 0-60 of 6.0 seconds instead of 4.9. That's a considerable performance gap.

This is more like the Golf R's buck-toothed uncle. The front looks like a cross between a Suzuki grill and some sort of Korean sedan.

djmt1 > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 16:54

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Time for a rematch, this time estates.

SlickRick08 > slapya 01/10/2015 at 16:59

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Yeah well.. we all have our cross to bear...

Tew > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 17:00

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I like it.

boneheadotto > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 17:01

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damnit jalopnik that's the 3rd performance wagon that has been teased lately. Please let one of these make it to the us! (GolfR or this or LeVorg wagon!!)

djmt1 > GreatPower 01/10/2015 at 17:12

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Ah no. The Seat does it in 5.6, the Golf 5.2. Plus the Seat is much lighter so a lot better through the corners but that isn't a surprise since if you want the fastest VW group hot hatch you buy the Seat.

Chasaboo > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 17:23

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Looks like a Volvo. I'll buy one.

ataraxia > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 17:25

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Yet another wagon that we cannot have...I like the look of this much more than the Golf version.

Shane Morris > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 17:27

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Why don't we get Seat in the United States? Would it steal sales from Audi? Spanish car stigma?

I totally want one.

vestigialbrain > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 17:34

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Volkswagen, go home, you're drunk.

Seat, come on over.

Thunderface > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 18:02

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WAT U MEAN 'ST'?????????

TommyK154 > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 18:05

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I so wish Seat sold in America. I don't care that VWs are basically the same thing, there's something Seats have that VWs dont

SlickRick08 > slapya 01/10/2015 at 18:14

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Plus: You have that issue with every car in europe.. espacially in germany. You always pay a lot for gas and the R und Cupras have a pretty reasonable mileage.. so..

djmt1 > TommyK154 01/10/2015 at 18:21

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Seat or

Skoda?

stephenmcknight > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 18:33

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I take the Golf R estate car and park it in my garage, as I have VW in the past and I always enjoyed them. being British I called it an estate car instead of wagon.

GreatPower > djmt1 01/10/2015 at 18:34

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Sources please:

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Re…

A 0-62mph time of 6.0sec (down two-tenths on the hatch) is quoted

You've quoted the non-DSG time for the Golf R actually.

http://autoweek.com/article/car-re…

Opt for the DSG over the six-speed and your 0-60 times drop from 5.3 to 4.9 seconds.

For comparison-sake, the equivalent Golf R is probably the Golf R Sportwagen which is quoted at 5.1 seconds

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/vo…

0-62mph in 5.1 seconds

Aremmes > Kat Callahan 01/10/2015 at 18:41

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Will it fit?

I'm Abe Froman > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 18:47

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FWD? Meh.

djmt1 > GreatPower 01/10/2015 at 18:51

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http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/f…

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/v…

I chose manuals just to let you know.

4thGen > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 19:13

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Nice. But the VW version would be plenty sexy enough, too.

enfuegobuddha > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 19:42

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Golf R looks better. I'd like to see the Estate stateside.

VictorRomeo > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 19:56

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My wife bought a fully loaded Leon ST FR spec. before Christmas and I have to say it's a stunning car to drive. It's the diesel 184bhp, DSG variant.... The amazing thing is, she needed no input from me when ordering... She wanted everything....

I also tested a 5 door Cupra ant it was sublime. For us Euros, you have to remember that these cars come in significantly cheaper than their VW/Audi counterparts.... In the case of the Cupra, it's 10k less over the R... albeit without the AWD, but as tests have shown, the Cupra may actually be the better for it.... Spec levels are also higher in the Seat and adding equipment is significantly cheaper - for the same kit pretty much.... You nget a whole lot of car for the money. My wife's car cost €38k.... the Golf with the same kit would cost over €45k and the A3 sportwagon over €50k.... Yeah, we Euros get reamed but there you go....

Anyhow, the diesel drives incredibly well and I'm really looking forward to testing the Cupra ST....

As an aside I have a new euro-model Passat 2,0 twin turbo 240bhp 4Motion arriving in about one month..... I totally can't wait for that to land!

GreatPower > djmt1 01/10/2015 at 19:59

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Well you've proven the point that there's some discrepancy between varying automotive press figures.

I didn't see an ST version on of the Cupra there though. Did they name it differently on parkers?

djmt1 > GreatPower 01/10/2015 at 20:08

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Nah, I was comparing Hatch figures. Either way, I'm happy we have a bunch of super estates again that said three of them (Cupra, Golf & Octavia) are the same car underneath fortunately they all have a legit reason for existing.

Golf- Luxury

Seat- Speed

Skoda- Space

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 20:22

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*jaloping intensifies*

bratkitty > djmt1 01/10/2015 at 21:07

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Why can't it be both?

Fling Lock > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 21:22

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Here in Spain, only people who can't afford the other VAG brands buy Seat, it's like buying a cheap crappy Audi, loads of cheap looking plastic, buttons that wear off quickly, pieces you recognise ass from older VAG models, shitty sound insulation, I could just go on and on.

I'm not saying they are a complete crap, it's just that you get what you pay for, the cheapest VAG group brand, and that's got to show somewhere...

PD: The MK1 Cupra is the real deal ;P

picoFarad > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 21:31

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Vicente Esteve > CRX-Wing 01/10/2015 at 22:25

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Europe gets all the nice things...

Vicente Esteve > Vintage1982Benz 01/10/2015 at 22:26

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I haz it 2

Vicente Esteve > SlickRick08 01/10/2015 at 22:28

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Now go and BUY IT

Vicente Esteve > 300hp30mpgrwdfor30k 01/10/2015 at 22:28

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great explanation.

Vicente Esteve > bottomfeeds 01/10/2015 at 22:36

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The Leon SC (2 Door) is the biggest leap in terms of looks compared to the Golf 2 door. Check it out:

Vicente Esteve >  V8 Rustler 01/10/2015 at 22:38

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I was mistaken, fixed!

Vicente Esteve > ohh-75 01/10/2015 at 22:39

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I hope that is in a good way.

Vicente Esteve > Chris Hadley 01/10/2015 at 22:39

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I know!

Vicente Esteve > djmt1 01/10/2015 at 22:39

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YES!

Vicente Esteve > Tew 01/10/2015 at 22:46

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I do as well.

Vicente Esteve > boneheadotto 01/10/2015 at 22:47

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I think it would be easier for the Golf Wagon.

Also, as far as im concerned, they are built in Mexico. 1 of them will get to the US.

Vicente Esteve > Chasaboo 01/10/2015 at 22:48

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A Volvo dangerously injected with Botox.

Vicente Esteve > ataraxia 01/10/2015 at 22:49

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I also prefer it to the Golf, but I would take the Golf for practicality.

Vicente Esteve > Shane Morris 01/10/2015 at 22:50

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I don't think they would at all. I think that if VW of America do bring them and sell Seats as a side company (Like Chrysler and Fiat) they can bring a lot more people in and fall in love with the company.

Vicente Esteve > vestigialbrain 01/10/2015 at 22:51

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Is Skoda a better Volkswagen than Volkswagen? I think it is.

Vicente Esteve > Thunderface 01/10/2015 at 22:54

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Uh, Station Wagon Triumph?

Vicente Esteve > TommyK154 01/10/2015 at 22:54

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Sexy. Thats what they do.

Vicente Esteve > stephenmcknight 01/10/2015 at 22:56

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Estate is such an evocative word here. And as a current MQB platform vehicle owner, I can just start to imagine how epic this is.

Vicente Esteve > I'm Abe Froman 01/10/2015 at 22:56

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I can take it, don't worry. You don't have to pass through this torture.

Vicente Esteve > 4thGen 01/10/2015 at 22:57

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Sexy in a utilitarian and rapid sort of way.

Vicente Esteve > enfuegobuddha 01/10/2015 at 22:58

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Here is a photo of a Leon Cupra inside:

I can attest it is a lovely place to sit.

Vicente Esteve > VictorRomeo 01/10/2015 at 23:00

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Pictures of everything please! And also more details on your Passat, as you can see I am a VAG aficionado.

Vicente Esteve > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 01/10/2015 at 23:01

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*Too Intense*

Vicente Esteve > Fling Lock 01/10/2015 at 23:01

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I know because Seat is also in Mexico and I have driven quite a few of them.

I can attest that they have come a long way.

Vicente Esteve > picoFarad 01/10/2015 at 23:02

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What?

picoFarad > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 23:23

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Toyota Venza!

bottomfeeds > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 23:39

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It does look good in that picture, but there is something about the Golf R in real life that I find really attractive.

picoFarad > picoFarad 01/10/2015 at 23:42

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They look almost identical, and the Venza comes dangerously close to the same hp and torque with a v6. Venza, however, comes with awd. Would you get excited by a Venza?

Vicente Esteve > picoFarad 01/10/2015 at 23:43

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I wouldn't get excited by the Venza because every mechanical part was developed to be smooth, not agile.

Also, they don't look identical.

Vicente Esteve > bottomfeeds 01/10/2015 at 23:44

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See the Leon in person and preferences will change!

UrinalCakesAreDelicious > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 23:52

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I can definitely fap to this.

picoFarad > Vicente Esteve 01/10/2015 at 23:54

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Not identical, almost identical. Ridiculously similar. But the Venza is cheaper.

I love sport wagons. I can't get excited about a Spanish Venza.

GreatPower > djmt1 01/11/2015 at 00:22

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Yeah, they all certainly beat the shit out of my old 1.8T.

Big Russ > Kat Callahan 01/11/2015 at 00:46

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Can I get it in brown?

I'm Abe Froman > Vicente Esteve 01/11/2015 at 01:26

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It's cool...but I'd rather have an R wagon: AWD, classier but not Audi-boring, and let's remember SEATs are basically built to the same options spec as US Passats. Put the two in a dealer and my money would go for the R Sportwagen. The Cupra Wagen will cost as much as as a Golf R but be the practical cheaper funner alternative...that's just a big ass to be pulled by the front wheels!

anon-sxmcyecofnu1eocpqsk9iq > Vicente Esteve 01/11/2015 at 02:25

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I've fallen in love with the new Cupra series. Goddamn it I want one so bad.

David Wal > Vicente Esteve 01/11/2015 at 03:45

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It is too bad Seat is not in America. I would never import a Seat because I would have a hard time guessing which parts to get at a parts store. Also I would have to special order body parts for the car.

lecrab > Vicente Esteve 01/11/2015 at 04:10

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The build quality of veedubs gets mocked here often. Why not this time? Seats and Skodas are veedubs in disguise. They're all considered pretty good over here and seem to sell well, especially the skodas, as they tend to get you more for less.

lecrab > Big Russ 01/11/2015 at 04:11

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Absolutely. Manual, sir?

lecrab > Vicente Esteve 01/11/2015 at 04:12

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The seat looks like the a3 for some reason. But in the end, they're all the same car anyway.

lecrab > picoFarad 01/11/2015 at 04:13

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Good point! Well spotted.

lecrab > Fling Lock 01/11/2015 at 04:16

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Incredible. Here in the Netherlands, Seat is regarded as a sporty brand and often preferred over VW. Only Skoda sells more, as they're fully loaded at a lower price point.

lecrab > Vicente Esteve 01/11/2015 at 04:17

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All current Volvo's seem to have been botoxed. My beautiful brand is gone now.

lecrab > SlickRick08 01/11/2015 at 04:18

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Gave me a warm feeling, too.

enfuegobuddha > Vicente Esteve 01/11/2015 at 04:35

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Thanks for that. Very nice car. Too bad not many cars of this nature are available here.

Ben C > Vicente Esteve 01/11/2015 at 04:59

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I love SEATs. Even back in the days when they were supposedly crappy.

I wish they sold them where I live.

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20394089234089234 > Fling Lock 01/11/2015 at 06:16

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Off topic, but I was in Andalusia a few weeks ago, and exactly every single car that had been on the road for, perhaps, a week or more had dents and scratches everywhere... I was kind of sad, not even the rarer and sportier cars had been spared! It has to be a nightmare for enthusiasts over there! Is this something applicable only to southern Spain or is the entire country filled with doomed cars?

Teutonic Tonic > picoFarad 01/11/2015 at 07:08

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It is in a completely different class, weighing around 900 lbs more than my VW Sportwagen.

VictorRomeo > Vicente Esteve 01/11/2015 at 08:32

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Passat is arriving in 6 weeks or so. It's the version with the new 240bhp twin turbo diesel. Highline trim level, DSG, 4motion and DCC as standard. I've speced it high - I too love my VAG cars. It'll have the 19" wheels, comes in tungsten silver, black leather and discover pro with active info display.... All driving aids and dynaudio hifi too....

Replacing my B7 Passat. An 11 highline sport pretty much fully loaded and in phantom black pearl. A lovely car. Selling it to a buddy for good money!

The wife's car... How do I get u pictures??

stephenmcknight > Vicente Esteve 01/11/2015 at 08:35

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thank for that update i use wagon in future. the seat Cupra Wagon does look like a beast and would be fun to drive but i will still take the golf r wagon instead.

fcukyoukinja > Vicente Esteve 01/11/2015 at 08:39

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A question: Why so much love for this refrigerator lookalike and at the same time so little love for Buick/Opel Cascada? Engine options aside I think Opel has better lines.

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John Kimble >  V8 Rustler 01/11/2015 at 09:07

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Interior material quality is behind what VW were doing two generations ago. Not necessarily a bad thing at this price, but just saying.

Vicente Esteve > I'm Abe Froman 01/11/2015 at 09:57

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I understand, but would surely like to drive both to see which one i'd prefer.

Vicente Esteve > anon-sxmcyecofnu1eocpqsk9iq 01/11/2015 at 09:58

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They are so SPANISH